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we help harry reid take on his biggest enemy, harry reid. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." one last quick question for the panel. with all of the dishonesty and unethical behavior in congress, can you name one person in d.c. you actually trust? >> michelle obama and her side. >> john: elon? >> no. listen, i know people -- i know politicians are politicians so i treat them as such. >> john: aaron? >> conservative -- moderate republicans for staying so quiet and maintaining -- keeping their jobs during the tough tough times. >> john: aaron wins the night. today, my friends the senate republicans made history when they used the filibuster to block a vote on president obama's nominee for secretary of defense, another republican. and the whole thing stinks like a carnival cruise ship. house majority leader harry reid was so angry he almost tore the tassels off his loafers. reid called it the saddest spect
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senator harry reid expressing his frustration but no ex broke of support or promise of a another come first may be of hagel. to assess the is the situationw kt mcfarland, and dr. walid phares. senator harry reid suggestions that republican parties throwing national security to the wind. >> bologna, there have been plenty of times when u.s. has been without the secretary of defense. usually what happens is deputy secretary of defense is the acting secretary of defense, a good guy, he could be acting, are other thing, panettaas not left yet, that is bologna. that is not the argument. the fact is that two reasons that senators are opposing hagel. one is lindsay graham, and senator iaot have real questions about benghazi, and the other hand senator has questions about hagel. both of those together, are causing real problem, and a lot of the wounded on hagel are self inflicted. lou: and waleed as you read that letter from white house revealing, that the president did no contact anyone in the libyan government, that he relied upon his secretary of state, who has said she had no role in the
senator harry reid expressing his frustration but no ex broke of support or promise of a another come first may be of hagel. to assess the is the situationw kt mcfarland, and dr. walid phares. senator harry reid suggestions that republican parties throwing national security to the wind. >> bologna, there have been plenty of times when u.s. has been without the secretary of defense. usually what happens is deputy secretary of defense is the acting secretary of defense, a good guy, he could...
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you know, you hear harry reid essentially making an appeal to history saying, yeah, this is unprecedented. is this what you want to be remembered for? for republicans that is a potentially potent line of argument. republicans don't really know what voters want to remember them as or see them as right now, and so that is something they're taking into consideration. >> republicans don't really know who republicans are at this point so to si erin degree. curt, we went back into the archives. fewer than 2% of cabinet nominations have been rejected since 1789. john tower rejected for a defense secretary in 1989. you have to go back to 1844 to james porter, who was rejected for secretary -- >> he was robbed, though. >> where was he during benghazi? >> this is the united states senate, which part of its brand is this civility, and who are they doing this to? a guy who was a republican senator four years ago. i've decided it's a bit of joe lieberman derangement syndrome. a heiretick from your own party, once he is playing for the other team, it drives you crazy, and it's driving the republicans c
you know, you hear harry reid essentially making an appeal to history saying, yeah, this is unprecedented. is this what you want to be remembered for? for republicans that is a potentially potent line of argument. republicans don't really know what voters want to remember them as or see them as right now, and so that is something they're taking into consideration. >> republicans don't really know who republicans are at this point so to si erin degree. curt, we went back into the archives....
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harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we have no secretary of defense for the next 10 days and in the middle of at war. harry reid pointed out yesterday, this was his first. >> first time in the history of our country, if secretary of defense had been filibustered successfully >> bill: there is no doubt who is to blame. mitch mcconnell didn't do anything to stop it. >> to. >> just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> bill: shocking, said the majority leader. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered sec
harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we...
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harry reid could do that. not knowing the outcome. then the other scenario, which is gaining some sort of talking here is if they could extend it because congress is away next week and have the vote effectively a week from monday. give it a little more time. politically that's not so good for democrats. republicans would welcome that extra time. those who don't want to see hagel confirm think maybe in the intervening time something might surface that would tore meade pedohis nomination. this is a numbers game. this is a positioning game. trying to get more information. hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this get
harry reid could do that. not knowing the outcome. then the other scenario, which is gaining some sort of talking here is if they could extend it because congress is away next week and have the vote effectively a week from monday. give it a little more time. politically that's not so good for democrats. republicans would welcome that extra time. those who don't want to see hagel confirm think maybe in the intervening time something might surface that would tore meade pedohis nomination. this is...
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i mean, isn't this harry reid's fault? harry had a chance to change the rules of the senate and he was too nice to mitch mcconnell and now look what we've got. there's probably more to come. your thoughts. >> i suppose so, though i remember not very long ago when we were all suffering under the george w. bush administration and there was a real fear that without the filibuster then george bush would have been able to put some of his very radical extremists on the bench and push through more of his agenda. so i understand the reticence to kind of unleash the nuclear option. and you know, i don't think you can necessarily blame harry reid for the unprecedented not just obstructionism but kind of paranoid lunacy of this new crop of senators who, you know, before i think we used to see this sort of incredibly paranoid mccarthyite apocalyptic view of american foreign policy among some of the characters in the house -- >> doesn't that make the case for why harry should have done, this because of the ted cruzes of the world and t
i mean, isn't this harry reid's fault? harry had a chance to change the rules of the senate and he was too nice to mitch mcconnell and now look what we've got. there's probably more to come. your thoughts. >> i suppose so, though i remember not very long ago when we were all suffering under the george w. bush administration and there was a real fear that without the filibuster then george bush would have been able to put some of his very radical extremists on the bench and push through...
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to watch harry reid complain about it is much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he had an agreement with mitch mcconnell. he have this 60 vote rule. >> reforming the filibuster in a way that the rules we're saying this is the ten dansy there is nothing to interrupt this ten dansy right now. it is hard for me to be sympathetic to harry reid when he says oh my god look at these people abusing it when you had a chance to do something about it and he didn't. >> and they replaced him with a crazier senator ted cruz. but the right way for john mccain to have expressed his outrage would have been with a different vote today. rather than supporting the crazy cruz side of this argument. this guy claims to be a friend of chuck haegle. he is allowing this undignified process to go forward and participating in it. it is ugly and bad for his long-term image. >> running the pentagon is a hard job. it is one of the largest workforces in the world. there are strong centers of p power in that building. none of that has been litigated at all. i know they talked to al jazeera once.
to watch harry reid complain about it is much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he had an agreement with mitch mcconnell. he have this 60 vote rule. >> reforming the filibuster in a way that the rules we're saying this is the ten dansy there is nothing to interrupt this ten dansy right now. it is hard for me to be sympathetic to harry reid when he says oh my god look at these people abusing it when you had a chance to do something about it and he didn't. >> and they...
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on the democratic side, why did harry reid go ahead with the vote when he didn't have to? harry reid and democrats get to spend the next ten days saying that republicans are mounting unprecedented filibusters against the secretary of defense, that they are rolling hand grenades into the senate and they won't cooperate with barack obama. is. >> warner: helps them make that point. mark, how does this look oer tent gone to the folks are talking to you there there? >> it lookser the to believe people overseas. inside the pentagon they are consumed right now with the sequester. the looming $500 billion and budget cuts. they don't need this monkey wrench thrown into the works. hagel has support in the pentagon but there's leeriness, he didn't do very well in his confirmation hearing and there is blood in the water and the they're moving inÑi for the kil. basically i think what's happening and what happened today is the sense that this is another ten days forrips, drips, drips that could send his nomination into a tail spin. but basically the military's professional. ash carter,
on the democratic side, why did harry reid go ahead with the vote when he didn't have to? harry reid and democrats get to spend the next ten days saying that republicans are mounting unprecedented filibusters against the secretary of defense, that they are rolling hand grenades into the senate and they won't cooperate with barack obama. is. >> warner: helps them make that point. mark, how does this look oer tent gone to the folks are talking to you there there? >> it lookser the to...
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harry reid had a chance to go for a more full-throated filibuster. but his reasoning was that when the democrats are in the majority -- in the minority and that could happen, this next election, that they want to have that same leverage that republicans have been using with this filibuster reform to block many of the president's actions. but this is a real surprise that hagel has essentially been filibusterd. it looks like ult mimately, he will be confirmed. they have been pretty successful in forcing the president's hand to release more information on that. but, ultimately, i think they are giving away some of their standing. they're supposed to be the party of national security, the party of defense in this way by blocking this very important post. i think they're doing some damage -- >> yeah, we're talking about secretary of defense. we're talking about who's going to head the pentagon. and let me tell you this, ryan, tell you how blatantly inconsistent and unprecedented this is. he said in 2005 that presidential nominees shouldn't be filibustered
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bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and even folks on the democratic side will acknowledge that, and that has made it even more difficult. then you have the additional problem, from his supporters' point of view, that there are calls for speeches that did not come out for the committee that hagel gave and they never received, and now you have one speech, for example, that a group says that they can get to the committee by friday. its already out of committee, but -- so now it's on the house floor. this vote happens, they need 60 votes. democrats have a 55-45 vote margin, they need five republicans. you have two republ
bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and...
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some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on immigration. i agree with david. i think this will get done but it's never great for a nominee to have to wait another week to hang out there and take shots from opposition. it's not a great place for them to be but i'm not worried that this is not going to get through but this is the flexing of the muscle by republicans in the senate for sure. >> okay. so hagel gets blocked at least for now. rand paul and others are threatening to block john brennan. susan rice didn't get to the nomination process. is this rocky road if that's how we want to describe it, david, does this hurt the president's credibility or at least his ability to get things done, a small distraction, should it become a smaller one? put it into the wider con tech in terms of what the white house want to be accomplishing
some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on immigration. i agree with david. i think this will get done but it's never great for a nominee to have to wait another week to hang out there and take shots from opposition. it's not a great place for them to be but...
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that left harry reid with just 59 of the 60 votes needed to move on to confirmation marking the first ever successful filibuster of a cabinet nominee. because of the coming senate recess, the next chance to confirm hagel will be the last week of february. in the meantime, republicans continued to find new reasons to justify they are obstruction. senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against
that left harry reid with just 59 of the 60 votes needed to move on to confirmation marking the first ever successful filibuster of a cabinet nominee. because of the coming senate recess, the next chance to confirm hagel will be the last week of february. in the meantime, republicans continued to find new reasons to justify they are obstruction. senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked...
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harry reid yesterday we'll get your comments but first majority leader harry reid said they won't get away with this game. >> first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee or secretary of defense has been filibustered. what a shame. >> bill: so he's saying they're going to have a vote tomorrow. it is a hold technically. technically not a filibuster. and it looks like though hagel is going to get to 60 votes to break the hold or the filibuster. do you agree? >> i saw something this morning that said they're at 58 right now. i think if reid moved ahead with the closer motion, he has to be pretty confident. he doesn't take these kinds of votes unless he knows he's going to win. maybe there are two people on the fence. but i think what you'll see is you'll get more votes for the cloture. people like john mccain and others who are uncomfortable with the precedent of filibuster ing but who will vote no on the final nomination. >> bill: one of the reasons he ought to be uncomfortable is because if, some day, there were ever a republican back in the white house right, t
harry reid yesterday we'll get your comments but first majority leader harry reid said they won't get away with this game. >> first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee or secretary of defense has been filibustered. what a shame. >> bill: so he's saying they're going to have a vote tomorrow. it is a hold technically. technically not a filibuster. and it looks like though hagel is going to get to 60 votes to break the hold or the filibuster. do you agree?...
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senator harry reid blasting republicans. we're going to ask republican senator john barrasso what republicans hope to gain from this. >>> and the nra fire brand touching off another fire storm with an op-ed tinged with racially insensitive language. >>> plus, the superstar athlete that everyone called the blade runner at the olympics taken into custody after his girlfriend was found dead in his home. the olympian appearing in court. we're going to bring you the very latest coming up. ♪ they hatin' ♪ patrolling they tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty ♪ ♪ tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty ♪ ♪ tryin' to -- [ woman ] hi there. why do we always have to take your mom's car? [ male announcer ] the security of an iihs top safety pick, the 2013 volkswagen tiguan. that's the power of german engineering. right now lease a 2013 tiguan for $219 a month. ♪ [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing
senator harry reid blasting republicans. we're going to ask republican senator john barrasso what republicans hope to gain from this. >>> and the nra fire brand touching off another fire storm with an op-ed tinged with racially insensitive language. >>> plus, the superstar athlete that everyone called the blade runner at the olympics taken into custody after his girlfriend was found dead in his home. the olympian appearing in court. we're going to bring you the very latest...
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what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the institution. there's nothing in the actual rule, short of changing them, that is going to stop this. there's all the incentives for more of this to happen. so i'm sorry, it's a little hard for me to be particularly sympathetic to harry reid when he gets up there saying oh my god, look at these people abusing the filibuster. yeah, that's been the case, you had a chance to do something about it and didn't. >> republicans look at jim demint retire and replaced immediately with a possibly crazier senator from texas, ted cruz. john mccain was outraged that cruz questioned the patriotism, the l
what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the...
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so harry reid is frustrated. >> mr. president, in less than two hours our country will be without a secretary of defense at a time when we have a war going on in afghanistan, and about 70,000 troops there. we have a nuclear weapon was detonated in north korea. >> reporter: a nuclear test was done in north korea and 66,000 troops in afghanistan but you get the picture. these are serious times and so harry reid and the democrats say, we need a secretary of defense and soon, jon. jenna: point well-taken there. what are republicans saying about the nomination? what are they telling you and what about this delay, this potential delay? >> reporter: well, jenna, several leading republicans tell me they think chuck hagel will ultimately get through based on the strength of democratic support. they're holding out because they want more information what the president president did the night of the benghazi attack, 9/11. they want that information. they want the texts of speeches for chuck hague gill five years. they feel like the
so harry reid is frustrated. >> mr. president, in less than two hours our country will be without a secretary of defense at a time when we have a war going on in afghanistan, and about 70,000 troops there. we have a nuclear weapon was detonated in north korea. >> reporter: a nuclear test was done in north korea and 66,000 troops in afghanistan but you get the picture. these are serious times and so harry reid and the democrats say, we need a secretary of defense and soon, jon....
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>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said that it's stupid what are the chances we are actually going to reach march 1 and the sequester, the $85 billion in automatic cuts will kick in and if it does and we begin to see marks reacting and stuff how does it play out with the president insisting there have to be tax hikes on the rich and the republicans saying no, it all needs to come out of spending cuts? >> i think it is likely that we do hit that day and that it comes and the reason why is because the republicans have been asking the white house to come up with some sort of alternative in which you actually prioritize and maybe do something on en
>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said...
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from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the hardest hit country were debt-plagued spain and italy. france was sluggish. growth in germany down .6%. slow growth in economic powerhouse germany is especially worrying. the weakness is hurting the german exports. adding to economic headache, strike of security workers for higher pay snarled airports in germany today. >> he said is up it. even if i suffer for it. further come pounding problems debt-ridden countries are saddled with high unemployment. the jobless rate in greece is record 27%. i come here all the time. there are no jobs. economists say there could be some pick nun euro growth this year. that wou
from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the...
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we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night. >> and i know you want these job-creating projects in your district. i've seen all those ribbon cuttings. jon: according to "politico" what he meant was, republicans give me flak for proposing stimulus programs but they all show up to take the credit. talk about hypocritical. translation, the president made this remark as he renewed his push for more government spending on infrastructure projects, modernizing the public schools and building high-speed rail and internet. the question, juan, is do we have the money to do all that stuff? >> well, you know, as the white house yesterday and they were
we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night....
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you know, senator mccain took on senator cruz this weeks, went after hagel, here is what harry reid said, the majority out of leader in the senate, what about this who filibuster process. >> i guess to be able to run for senate as a republican most place of the country, you need to have a resume that says i helped bill filibuster one of the president's nominees. >> what about it? >> first, i have to respectfully disagree with the lieutenant governor because he left out a couple of key facts. key fact number one, the sequester was created by the obama administration. so people are frustrated because you have a set of politicians on both sides unwilling to deal with something they created because it was a way for them to kick the can down the road. secondly, with regard to the hagel nomination, unfortunately, chuck hagel is dealing with his own poor performance as a nominee now. all the way back to your original question. there are many people in the democratic party who don't agree either there are many people in the democratic party who are in disagreement right now on what too do about
you know, senator mccain took on senator cruz this weeks, went after hagel, here is what harry reid said, the majority out of leader in the senate, what about this who filibuster process. >> i guess to be able to run for senate as a republican most place of the country, you need to have a resume that says i helped bill filibuster one of the president's nominees. >> what about it? >> first, i have to respectfully disagree with the lieutenant governor because he left out a...
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harry reid decided he would just instead make a hand shake deal with the republicans' top senator mitch mcconnell. he said he was satisfied with the republicans agreeing to be more reasonable on issues like this. remember? they wouldn't change the filibuster rules. they would just agree as gentlemen that the republicans would curtail of excesses of filibustering everything. democrats decided to not only change the rules on the filibuster and just make that agreement with the republicans instead. they said, you know, at a minimum this would at least improve the confirmation process for the administration's nominees. how's that working out now? just a couple of weeks later. how's that gentlemen's agreement going? now that we've just had a filibuster of a cabinet nominee for the first time in american history. joining us now is andrea mitchell. great to have you here tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks, rachel. >> what happens next year? does leon panetta stay on as defense secretary even after he's gone through the motions of stepping down and going back home? >> yes. we've had all
harry reid decided he would just instead make a hand shake deal with the republicans' top senator mitch mcconnell. he said he was satisfied with the republicans agreeing to be more reasonable on issues like this. remember? they wouldn't change the filibuster rules. they would just agree as gentlemen that the republicans would curtail of excesses of filibustering everything. democrats decided to not only change the rules on the filibuster and just make that agreement with the republicans...